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Postby Daniel » Sun Nov 15, 2015 9:26 am

These sub-forums have now been merged into the various city/state sections to simply navigation and discussion.
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Re: Timetable & Service Changes Sub-fourms

Postby Craig » Sun Nov 15, 2015 11:41 am

Daniel wrote:These sub-forums have now been merged into the various city/state sections to simply navigation and discussion.


The whole reason that the sub-forums were created many years ago was because certain people were becoming annoyed about having to navigate through 'boring' timetables news threads often only covering mundane timing adjustments. The initial solution was a long multiple page thread for each state (similar to the observations threads which came later), but about 6 months later the sub-forums were created.

Surprised there was no consultation with the general readership before going backwards.

I'm guessing the preferred approach going forward that notable route, network changes or timetable changes going forward should get their own thread (examples would be things like George St closure, new network in Wollert, network-wide changes, major service upgrades for one route etc) while more minor updates (couple of extra peak trips, revised timings, minor route adjustment etc) are to be posted with the relevant operator news/observation thread?

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Re: Timetable & Service Changes Sub-fourms

Postby Daniel » Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:12 pm

I understand what you are saying, but the reality is the forum traffic has plummeted in recent years and the segregation is really no longer justified. We would be lucky to have one third of the amount of posts from say 7-8 years ago. Most people that complained about having to trawl through timetable change posts have long since left anyway.

Your suggestion about common operator grouping for changes is a good one but it doesn't necessarily have to happen, the search function is powerful enough to find what you are looking for. With this change it also allows added discussion that goes along with timetable changes like "yes they should move the Smartbuses up to Monbulk depot now because of that alteration" or "no, you can't make that change, the Designline buses are too ugly to drive up that street" etc etc. Plus the network planning discussion that occurs in the regular section can sit along with the service changes, which makes much more sense.
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Re: Timetable & Service Changes Sub-fourms

Postby Mr OC Benz » Sun Nov 15, 2015 2:04 pm

In the case of the WA section, we have been posting timetable/service changes/information in the general Perth-WA section for a couple of years now anyway. Barely anyone frequented the timetables section. Most of the traffic within the WA section these days is really just limited to transport projects and service planning/changes discussion.
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Re: Timetable & Service Changes Sub-fourms

Postby robert » Sun Nov 15, 2015 8:43 pm

As a timetable enthusiast, I liked having timetable threads separately, but I suspect I am in a minority.
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Re: Timetable & Service Changes Sub-fourms

Postby Lt. Commander Data » Mon Nov 16, 2015 8:42 am

Mr OC Benz wrote:In the case of the WA section, we have been posting timetable/service changes/information in the general Perth-WA section for a couple of years now anyway. Barely anyone frequented the timetables section. Most of the traffic within the WA section these days is really just limited to transport projects and service planning/changes discussion.


Same with the Adelaide section. Looks like the beginning of the end to me...
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Re: Timetable & Service Changes Sub-fourms

Postby RailwayBus » Thu Nov 19, 2015 1:17 am

This is definitely a good move. Most people have been posting this stuff in the regular sections anyway, and if they do end up in the timetable section, they are more often than not just duplicate threads with the same info, at least in the case of Victorian stuff. Well done.
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Re: Timetable & Service Changes Sub-fourms

Postby RailwayBus » Thu Nov 19, 2015 1:19 am

Lt. Commander Data wrote: Looks like the beginning of the end to me...


Only the beginning? This website has been dying a slow and agonising death for at least the last 18-24 months, if not longer. :lol: :P
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Timetable section gone

Postby runawaybus » Sun Nov 22, 2015 8:48 am

I am somewhat disappointed that the timetable sections have gone from the separate area it once was.

To find timetable changes one has to go through all the separate state threads and it can be difficult to find given some people bump off the timetable changes to somewhere down below or somewhere else.

Hopefully they can be please be reinstated as to how they were.

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Re: Timetable & Service Changes Sub-fourms

Postby Fleet Lists » Sun Nov 22, 2015 4:55 pm

RailwayBus wrote:
Lt. Commander Data wrote: Looks like the beginning of the end to me...


Only the beginning? This website has been dying a slow and agonising death for at least the last 18-24 months, if not longer. :lol: :P

I recall that at some stage last year, the average number of posts per day was well over 200. Now it is about 180. For a fall of 20 over 12 months in the average over more that 10 years, the number of posts per day over the past 12 months must be a lot less than that.
Over the next week I will keep some stats to see what the daily average is over that period. I suspect it will be less than 100.
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Re: Timetable & Service Changes Sub-fourms

Postby Fleet Lists » Sat Nov 28, 2015 3:08 pm

Since last Saturday the average number of posts per day (for 7 days) has been 86. So certainly considerable reduced from what it used to be but certainly not terminal as yet.
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Re: Timetable & Service Changes Sub-fourms

Postby Lt. Commander Data » Sat Nov 28, 2015 5:31 pm

What is classified as 'terminal'?
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Re: Timetable & Service Changes Sub-fourms

Postby Fleet Lists » Sat Nov 28, 2015 5:34 pm

I dont know but certainly would need to quite a bit less than 86.
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Re: Timetable & Service Changes Sub-fourms

Postby Fleet Lists » Sat Dec 05, 2015 3:02 pm

Things have been a bit better over the past 7 days with an average number of 97 posts per day.
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Re: Timetable & Service Changes Sub-fourms

Postby moa999 » Sun Dec 06, 2015 9:41 am

RailwayBus wrote:
Lt. Commander Data wrote: Looks like the beginning of the end to me...


Only the beginning? This website has been dying a slow and agonising death for at least the last 18-24 months, if not longer. :lol: :P


Think 24months you had a spike from Opal posts - which have slowly been reducing as the system gets bedded down.
The number of outages the site has probably doesnt help either.
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Re: Timetable & Service Changes Sub-fourms

Postby Off The Rails » Sun Dec 06, 2015 11:15 am

Well, both the main Opal threads come close to 10000 posts.

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Re: Timetable & Service Changes Sub-fourms

Postby Fleet Lists » Sat Dec 12, 2015 3:38 pm

This week a daily average of only 83.29, with a daily average over the three weeks I have been keeping these stats 89.00.

The Opal posts certainly kept the stats up for some time but I dont believe they increased the avarege but just stopped them from going down as quickly as they may have done other wise. I have no stats to prove this.
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Re: Timetable & Service Changes Sub-fourms

Postby Fleet Lists » Fri Dec 23, 2016 6:29 pm

It is some 12 months since the previous pots in this thread.

The average number of posts over a one week period has been as low as just under sixty while the average over the past 12 months is 74.60 so there is still a gradual decline in the number of daily posts.
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